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		<description><![CDATA[This is something I posted in another blog a couple of years ago, but the issue continues to come up, so I thought it was worth re-posting.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><em>This is something I posted in another blog a couple of years ago, but the issue continues to come up, so I thought it was worth re-posting.</em></p>
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<p><strong>Starting with the end: </strong>If you&#8217;ve got a domain name (ex. <a href="http://www.mycompany.com">www.mycompany.com</a>), make sure you&#8217;re listed on the contact record &#8211; most certainly as the registrant, ideally as one of the other contacts as well.</p>
<p>Again and again and again, I keep running into this:  A client asks us to manage their domain, either for hosting (<a href="http://www.stwhosting.com/"><span style="color:#5588aa;">www.stwhosting.com</span></a>), to transfer to our iclaro website service (<a href="http://www.iclaro.com/"><span style="color:#996699;">www.iclaro.com</span></a>), or for other reasons.</p>
<p>To do this, minimally we need to update the name servers associated with their name registration so that they point to the new website location.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, the client will have no idea about where their name is registered or what the id and password are to access it.</p>
<p>We can look this up, and generally, provided the client has been included as a contact for the domain, we can initiate a password request, which will send the client their user id and password.</p>
<p>Nine times out of ten though I find that the domain is registered entirely in the name of the person who first set it up: likely a long-gone web designer, hosting company, or someone else!</p>
<p>A name registration record has four contact fields &#8211; the registrant name (which should be the name of the company or person using the domain), an admin contact, technical contact, and billing contact.</p>
<p>Minimially, the registrant field should be the name of the owner, and we usually suggest the admin contact as well.</p>
<p>If that former person decides to be awkward (which happens quite often) it can be difficult to get control of the domain &#8211; not impossible, so far we&#8217;ve been successful every time &#8211; but a pain. [<em>update: we&#8217;ve been unable to gain control of .ca domains. We communicated with CIRA, the Canadian registration authority, and the response is that we either need to get the person in who&#8217;s name the domain is to turn it over, register an alternate name, or begin a legal dispute process &#8211; a not inexpensive process)</em>.</p>
<p><strong>Example:</strong></p>
<p>I want a website &#8211; www.mywidgets.com</p>
<p>I hire Bob Smith to design it and look after all of that for me. He does, but in the process registers www.mywidgets.com in his name. As long as we have a relationship, everything is fine.</p>
<p>But what if the relationship falls apart, or Bob disappears, or moves on to something else? If I want to move my website to another company I have to go through Bob to do so. If the relationship is bad, Bob can make that difficult, costly, or time consuming.</p>
<p><strong>The bottom line</strong> &#8211; if you&#8217;ve got a domain name, make sure you&#8217;re listed on the contact record &#8211; most certainly as the registrant, ideally as one of the other contacts as well.</p>
<p><strong>One more thing</strong> &#8211; Just how much are you paying for your domain name? The most recent client we helped was paying $60 per year for her domain name. We charge $19.99 (.com or .ca) and make a profit (not huge, but a couple of bucks). We charge even less for self serve (.com at <a href="http://www.stwtools.com/"><span style="color:#5588aa;">www.stwtools.com</span></a>, .ca through <a href="http://www.namespro.ca/?affiliatecode=urjxqkt2pog7p5dnamcf"><span style="color:#5588aa;">namespro.ca</span></a>).</p>
<p>Simon</p></div>
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